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Anonymous asked:

I absolutely love your Hannibal recaps. You have such amazing insight... Dare a I say a peculiar cleverness? So I was hoping you might share your thoughts about something. I've been struggling to pin down exactly how Will feels about Hannibal. I've found countless discussions about how Hannibal feels about Will, whether he loves he, what that love means, etc. But there isn't much discussion of Will's feelings. It's complicated, because Will is very conflicted, but I'd love to hear your thoughts!

OH GEE. Just a small and accessible question I feel fully equipped to answer!!! Ha ha, hah. Lord. Ok let’s just dive in here and see what sort of long jointless thing I write, what’s my first thought….. well, one is that a discrepancy in discussion could be due to how Will’s feelings about Hannibal often aren’t as much fun as the Lovestruck Cannibal’s! Because honestly, for a lot of the series’ run, even at the most mollified level Hannibal is kinda like the cut inside Will’s mouth that he can’t stop worrying with his tongue. (pls everyone use 1000 versions of this WAITING METAPHOR in your S4 speculative fics, god)

There’s also something about how most of the softer feelings Will has for Hannibal would gall him to admit, for evolving (and worsening) reasons, but throughout the whole show. Even in S1 Will is a pretty stirring blend of grateful and dismayed over how nice Hannibal’s support feels, and since he doesn’t like to need people (notorious fall-throughs, the lot of ‘em), he gets edgy about it. I’m kinda repeating some things I’ve brought up regarding Monster Husbands before, but the Support element is closely tied to the Understanding element, and both of these are suspect & dangerous to Will in his like, roiling turmoil over What Kind Of Crazy he is and what he should be ~allowed~

And then this gets all fucked into worse tangles during the long period when Will is all INCANDESCENTLY bitter & fighty toward Hannibal, for the very good reason of [U PICK]. He’s still his dearest enemy though, throughout. There’s just something to be said for that one asshole who appreciates your dark weird jokes, y’know? Also there’s the fact that they’re pretty fated into this at this point, your old school Doomed Love model probably as much as why the enemies-to-lovers trope exists. There’s just a lot of “inconvenient” passion going around. Fuck com-passion for a minute, honestly — you two literally try to make each other bleed out your betrayal on the regular.

But…. ok there is the compassion too. How Will can’t actually bear to watch Hannibal be killed, or how it feels so natural to partner up against shared adversaries, or how he tries to warn him in “Mizumono.” At that point in the narrative, well shit gets real heavy & drowny for Will and it’s a little hard to comb out (how damn d r e a m y is the Italian arc for him, seriously?) but I think in a lot of ways Hannibal begins to represent for Will a mysterious & scary but darkly appealing fairytale other-future. The World That Could Have Been, past-tense intended. Because I’d say part of the reason why Will even entertains it is because he thinks he’s already abandoned it, that Hannibal will never accept him after his betrayal and can just replace him with Bedelias more fit for his world. But Will feels all entranced and hopeless rn and is just gonna keep throwing his fluffy singed little moth body at Hannibal’s consuming flame in something he’s only half-heartedly calling “revenge” until Hannibal finally kills him good, whiiiich is an approach to looking at “Dolce” that is only just now coming together for me, wow.

But another aspect of this, that I’m remiss not to mention until now, is that Will’s always kinda “surfing his emotional breakers,” as @confusedkayt once phrased it, obliterating me with aptness as per usual. He’s really reactive to others obviously, and so with Hannibal’s shifts in his OWN feelings toward Will (or at least his shifts in understanding and then expressing them), Will’s feelings sweep & surge in turn. He’s the tugging moon to Hannibal’s tides as well though, so it’s not like this is only working in one direction. Anyhow, for reasons of parallelism that have made me want to lie on the floor even since I saw @genufa point this out, in “Digestivo” Will tries one last time to set aside Hannibal and make a grab for the quiet ~regular~ life he still thinks he wants, folding the season neatly in two, with Hannibal’s attempt to live the glam murder-cool life HE still thought he wanted making up the first part. They both had to go through this to learn how everything paled without the other, it seems.

I love how my paragraphs are getting longer & longer as I do more of a verbal throwing-my-hands-up-in-the-air as we go. And I feel like I still haven’t even answered your question! God, maybe it’s actually just pretty simple — maybe Will is, at times resentfully, at times hungrily, but always helplessly drawn to Hannibal for a lot of the very same reasons WE are. Hannibal is engaging. He’s the most interesting cannibal we know. We rage against all his terrible doings, but he always charms us anew with his quaint fussy preferences and warm-sad eyes, his murder-cat grace and that boundless, breathtaking devotion to his dear Will. Hannibal knows that no one will ever love Will the way he does, and Will knows that too. So in the end, he just has to decide whether he’s gonna take that leap.

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potatothief asked:

im rewatching s1 and what strikes me as odd is in amuse-bouche will admits to hannibal that he liked killing hobbs, but when abigail asks him in potage how it felt to kill, he says "its the ugliest thing in the world" you could write it off as will understanding it would be a bad thing to tell her how he really feels bc HE KILLED HER DAD but you get a sense from hugh's acting that will really feels that way at that moment. is will in denial here? is he acting for abigails sake? ur thots?

Actually, I think the answer can easily be that this IS how Will really feels, in both moments!

What Will wrestles with throughout….god, the whole dang series, is trying to reconcile liking something that he considers ugly. Hannibal’s mission, should he choose to accept it (and boy, does he), is not to get Will to enjoy the feeling of power that comes from definitively FIN-ing bad men, because that was already in play from the start, but to get Will to stop guilting himself to hell & back because of his subsequent moral judgment on said act/enjoyment of it. Morality, in this show, mega manifests on an Ugly/Beautiful scale — “ethics become aesthetics,” etc — which is what made the long struggled-toward “It’s beautiful” such an immense and perfect last line, preceding the final, most beautiful killing of all.

which is another reason why it’s so good when they’re deeaad

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Anonymous asked:

Can we talk about how Will starts adopting Margot's intonations and mannerisms in their conversation, it is amazing. Your recaps are epic, never stop!

:D so epic. In length, surely!

And oh yeah, Will & Margot fall into a pretty balanced little dance with each other straight away, and I love it. I actually think that S2 Will’s vibe bears quite a few similarities to Margot’s just on his own, what in my recap I called something like deadpanery + revelations? They’re both dealing in Affect, basically. Margot Verger is a deeply sensitive and emotional creature, which she’s actually not hiding in her dry mannerisms, just, ~protecting~ maybe. Will is very similar right now. They’re both suuuper sardonic, especially with Dr. Lecter — and he’s so pleased by them both, which also might say something.

Yknow I was asked once before about Will’s mirroring, and I gave a sorta breezy reply to it, and then that post somehow picked up a few real heavy additions and then took OFF. And then I made some Displeased Hannibal faces at all the notifications I kept getting, because I gotta say, I don’t think it’s anything so… dire? Will often just exhibits a more heightened version of pretty common human quirks, and social mirroring is really typical in most populations. It’s just that chameleoning thing people do sometimes, picking up vocab or physical expression or whatever reflecting the company you’re with. Or like, when you’re with a friend and they’re feeling super amped up and you find yourself getting jazzier too.

Will is more susceptible to this than most, and given the state of his life it can hew more dangerous than benign, but it’s also not a flat across-the-board sort of thing. Will doesn’t really mirror Jack or the lab team, for instance. It’s usually the victim-perpetrators he already identifies with due to shared circumstances, and people he’s personally drawn to, like your Alana’s and (UNFORTCH) your Hannibal’s. And I’d say those cases are the more unwitting, slip-slidey mannerism adoptions — he also does what feels to me to be a different, more calculated Turn Their Weapons Back On Them thing with people like Chilton and Bedelia. (Hannibal too, depending) (Hannibal is so many exceptions to so many rules…)

So yeah to bring it all back to Wry Whiskey with Margot & Will, sure Will falls right in with Margot’s tone, but a) I don’t think she’s so far off from the song he’s already singing, and b) the fact that he’s not resistant to her influence can be a sign of Closeness Potential, whiiiiich the next episode will see play out!

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Anonymous asked:

I'm not in the majority in that but I love the version where season 3 ends with Will and Hannibal's death and I kind of love this situation because EACH TIME I read your meta/fic The unwilling prophet and the lonely god the ending destroys me in pretty much the exact same way The wrath of the lamb did, aka, bittersweet devastation and perfect horror, which could not happen if this survival-loving fandom wasn't there to lull me the rest of the time.

Aaahhhhhh???!

No, real talk, my not-so-secret goal is go down in Hannibal fandom history as the “Love Me To Death” girl

I WILL ALWAYS BE HERE FOR YOUR DEATH WISHES. THERE’S NO WAY TO MAKE THAT NOT SOUND SPOOKY. BECAUSE IT IS.

Anyway have u all stopped to consider today that we witnessed the perfect ending of this series of television and it was a dark tender nuzzling tumble into the doom that was always waiting for them. Because….?? God. The Perfect Fairytale Murdermance.

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Hannibal Rewatch Recap: 2x09

**Warning: rewatch blogging, written with knowledge of the full series

Detailed summary model remains because I love you.


Season 2, Episode 9: “Shiizakana”

It begins.

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And what WHAT the pewtery black & white dream sequence with Hannibal all Odin-tied to a tree happened HERE?? Oh but of course it happened here, oh god, yes naturally because so many things have just broken forward for both of them. I’m so happy, this means that impulse-meets-impulse moment that closed 2x08 really was as profoundly ripple-worthy as I felt it to be!

What’s really interesting about this particular shift, I think, is that it seems to be something that sweeps over Hannibal that they then both respond to, as opposed to something unbidden in Will that sets them off, which is the more usual course. Because Hannibal curling his hand around the side of Will’s neck was exactly what it looked like from the word promo pics: a sudden, breathtaking expression of intimate affection. There have been many, many things that I’ve seen differently in this rewatch than I had the first time through, but one of the things that has remained the same is that I honestly don’t think Hannibal recognized this urge As Such until the barn, watching up close as Will held the life of a bad person in his beautiful hands.

At last something seems to have worked itself out of the tangle mess of feelings Hannibal has for Will, freed and named only to wrap around his heart and squeeze. Hannibal loves Will. And he wants to express that love to him, with gifts and touches. HO BOY. The love poem judicial kills had moved this aspect considerably along, but that was still more “you are my favorite Myrmidon and I want to help you achieve your glory,” whereas this is “you are my soulmate, dear Patroclus.”

Discounting like, myth, the love Hannibal bears for Will doesn’t have any analogue in either of their lives — because thank god there is nothing else like it on this good earth — but still, there is something in the Romance of it, the star-crossed fatefulness, hints of chivalry even, that widens the angle through which they can see their relationship. This dark, deep love has added so many more cards to the deck with which they’re playing their game. A troublesome amount, making it more and more difficult to keep those cards held close to the chest.

Hannibal’s reaction to this we will see in due time. Will’s, naturally, is to dream.

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Anonymous asked:

Hello I love your recaps and indeed your whole tumblr. Also loved your Iceland photos, I'm heading there myself in September. In your last recap you had a photo of Hannibal labeled the "most sinisterly explicit image of all time". What is that a picture of? Is it from the sex scene? I don't remember seeing it in the episode. Explain! Thanks.

Oh thank you so much hun! And lol, yes, so this was a possibly misapplied “joke” because this image

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out of context, it’s really just a dark blurry close-crop on a man’s face — not sinister OR explicit. But in context, of yes said 2x08 sex scene with Alana, it takes on SINISTERLY EXPLICIT QUALITIES. At least to this viewer, who, admittedly, has been known to see sinisterness and explicitry in the humdrum.

Though on this show….

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Anonymous asked:

correct me if I'm wrong but isn't in this episode we finally see for the first time that Will called Hannibal's name casually in front of Hannibal??

Hah, I was wondering if I’d be pinged to talk about Will and naming some day!

It is shocking to me, personally, that I’m going to suggest easing back on something, given that usually I’m just piling more dry timber on the flames and hollering “LET’S ALL BURN I LOVE BURNING” while sobbing. But in the discussion on the How & Cry of when Will uses “Dr. Lecter” versus “Hannibal” as a form of address (here, also all sorts of elsewheres), I think we might be giving Will a leeetle too much credit. This is mostly based on the way he names the other characters, because there seems to be a pretty standard system there, that as far as I can tell doesn’t have anything to do with Will being purposefully withholding.

So as has been stated/bewailed, save a few moments of using it in front of him like here in 2x08, Will does not address Hannibal with his first name until 3x02 ‘Primavera’, when he calls out to him in the catacombs. This moment is, of course, HUGELY SIGNIFICANT SHOT TO THE FEELS AND YOU’RE TO BLAME etc, but for Will at least, I’m not certain how much the name has to do with it. And I’m a huge sucker for some good ~Naming Magic~ so do know that I don’t take this lightly! We might be able to work it back around to an unwitting spell-cast though, which could be fun, but I honestly don’t think Will knows what he’s doing here, and that is because:

People Whom Will Hardly Ever Addresses With Their Name
Alana
Beverly
Margot
Molly
Hannibal*

Notable, Will LIKES all these people (*a special case). Now let’s look at a different list:

People Whom Will Addresses By Name A Lot
“Jaaaack”
“Miss Lounds”
“Fred-er-ick”
“Dr. Lecter”

Watson I spy a pattern.

It looks like Will Graham is basically middle-naming people to show his annoyance, only the way he middle-names is to name at all, while either sarcastically feigning deference (Freddie, Hannibal), or using their more casual name when they clearly would prefer the fancier title (Chilton). Jack is an exception because he’s his boss and Will can’t get away with dickishly “Agent Crawford”ing at him, but he always drags out a few more disgruntled A’s for good measure. (God, Hugh Dancy is magic.)

This general history is why I’m pretty sure Will mostly uses names as a form of needling people, or just broadcasting displeasure. For instance, in my rewatch I’ve noticed that he has actually called Alana “Dr. Bloom” at one point, which was when she came by his cell to be all How Are You ~Feeling~ right after he’d ordered a psychopath hit and was in the midst of imagining himself were-ing into an antlerbeast.

So, focusing this lens on “Dr. Lecter” / “Hannibal”…..

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Anonymous asked:

So if Will didn't consciously think that Hannibal was in love with him for the entire s2 span, but he still hatched the seduction plan, am I to infer that Will thought of himself as Hannibal's favorite plaything for that long? How do you think Will thought (consciously) of their dynamic in the latter half of s2?

genufa answered:

What’s the difference between “being in love with,” “being fascinated with,” and “considers as one’s favorite plaything”? Is it that a plaything doesn’t have feelings or desires – at least, none that matter? Is it a question of control? Is it the presence or non-presence of sexual or romantic sensation? Is it that serial killers typically demonstrate some of these motives but not others? I think Will leaned on and tested these questions, over the course of his “seduction plan,” and that by Mizumono he still didn’t have the answers. Putting neat labels on people and relationships isn’t Will Graham’s forte.

Would Will have planned differently if he knew for sure that Hannibal wanted to kill and eat him as an endgame to the befriending, versus seduce him to bed? Or both? It didn’t matter to the events that did take place in S2, IMO, and whatever that point was, it was never supposed to get that far.

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Oh yeah I way agree! And following his general approach of avoiding thinking about certain things directly (given how Too Real that can quickly get), I think Will would probably keep all endgames sorta soft-focused, and just hope he can veer off before the crash.

Also, I’d guess that part of why Will doesn’t have definite answers by ‘Mizumono’ is because Hannibal doesn’t have them yet either. But questions though, hooo boy, they both have all the questions you can eat.

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