kikidiesunddas replied to your post “An overdue post sitting in my drafts I gotta get out of my system – –…”
jesus fucking christ! you! i’M! they! thank you.
fangschreckenkreb replied to your post “An overdue post sitting in my drafts I gotta get out of my system – –…”
I’m not sure I can really convey how wild it is that you can talk about the non-existent second season of a show I never watched, filled with characters I don’t know, based on religious texts I’m not terribly familiar with outside a general literary osmosis kind of deal…and I am having SUCH A GOOD TIME. Like, I would settle in with a glass of wine and read this stuff on the same ‘ooh treat!’ wavelength I would a really good short story I’d been saving. Just wild.
Wow babes I’m DELIGHTED, holy shit, you are so welcome? Hah GLAD YOU ENJOY, this was….listen this was also a treat to write. I love nonsense.
dellesayah replied to your post “An overdue post sitting in my drafts I gotta get out of my system – –…”
This post just kept going and going, and I mean that in the best possible way. I laughed in delight the entire time
“David and Jonathan make a covenant with each other” you’re right! I did lose my shit!
MISSION
ACCOMP’ED
:D ‘:D (jaunty saluting emoji)
An overdue post sitting in my drafts I gotta get out of my system
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“God’s Grace Spares the Struggling ‘Kings’ For Another Season, New Showrunner To Step In,” reads Variety in Imaginary 2009. “New ‘Kings’ Showrunner Promises Fresh Vision,” reports Vulture, subhead: “‘Doin’ right by God’s Boys’ she Tweets.”
IN WHICH
I slide out of the pieces of Season One I wanna keep like blocks in a Jenga game, blithely topple the remainder, and REBUILD THE TOWER ANEW.
IN WHICH
Sly Tower of Babel references…are welcome & appropriate!!!
IN WHICH
I Break Season 2 of NBC’s Kings
Oh do know now—this is a long post
soundingonlyatnightasyousleep replied to your post “platoapproved replied to your post: In which I finish Kings GOD’S…”
Giovanni’s room by baldwin might be of interest if you’re looking for david and jonathan-referencing lit
Wow hey you know what, startled to realize, I’ve read that. Well I’ve read an excerpt of it, back when I used to subscribe to Lapham’s Quarterly like a reeeaaal posh one. A couple pages of Giovanni’s Room were included in the ‘Youth’ issue, Summer 2014, which is about to get further interesting for us, because Summer 2014 is when, you may recall, Captain America: The Winter Soldier was released, like a great flood over tumblr dot com, and so when I read such bits as
“I remember walking down the dark, tropical Brooklyn streets with heat coming up from the pavement and banging from the walls of the houses with enough force to kill a man…, with my arm around Joey’s shoulder. I was proud, I think, because his head came just below my ear. We were walking along and Joey was making dirty wisecracks and we were laughing.”
—and
“When we came back along those streets it was quiet; we were quiet too, We were very quiet in the apartment and sleepily got undressed in Joey’s bedroom and went to bed. I fell asleep—for quite a while, I think. But I woke up to find the light on and Joey examining the pillow with great, ferocious care.”
—and very much
“I realized that my heart was beating in an awful way and that Joey was trembling against me and the light in the room was very bright and hot. I started to move and to make some kind of joke but Joey mumbled something and I put my head down to hear. Joey raised his head as I lowered mine and we kissed, as it were, by accident. … We had our arms around each other. It was like holding in my hand some rare, exhausted, nearly doomed bird which I had miraculously happened to find.”
—and oh certainly
“I feel in myself now a faint, dreadful stirring of what so overwhelmingly stirred in me then, great thirsty heat, and trembling, and tenderness so painful I thought my heart would burst. But out of this astounding, intolerable pain came joy; we gave each other joy that night. It seemed, then, that a lifetime would not be long enough for me to act with Joey the act of love.”
—I thought, drowsy in the endless heat of my own New York summer in a cheap un-air-conditioned apartment, “wow that’s quite pre-serum Steve & Bucky of you, James Baldwin.”
And of course there’s ONE, SPECIFIC constant now in all this, repeatedly popping up in this cultural bloodline, and I really do not know what to do with the fact that when David & Jonathan-referencing works appear in my life, one Sebastian Stan never seems to be far away.
platoapproved replied to your post: platoapproved replied to your post: In which I…
your font choices for this are truly excellent
Behind-the-scenes: this font is called ‘Giddyup’, and the phrase ‘Giddyup’ in conjunction with David Shepherd makes me laugh real helplessly
kikidiesunddas replied to your post: In which I finish Kings
you brought me so much joy with these :D
Hey for all my ragging on its clumsiness, Kings also brought me a lot of joy! It is one of the most rewarding series to re-break in my head I’ve ever watched. Like, this thing coulda been the primetime soap version of Anne Carson’s poem ‘Book of Isaiah’* with a little more inspiration, elbow grease, and verve, and that sure is fun 2 ponder on
*hat tip @zielenna for this one
Daniel is a Good Boy, David is a Not-So-Good Boy
Wow interesting! Interesting! In Kings David is Good to a fault.
Dang teach me more about God’s Boys beyond their iconography in Western art, what are their DEALS
platoapproved replied to your post: In which I finish Kings
GOD’S DIMWIT SKDFJNSKJDF I’M HOWLING i still haven’t read the rest of the post yet bc i died

platoapproved replied to your post: In which I finish Kings
it does surprise me a little that you hadn’t heard about david and jonathan, in that it’s an allusion that gets made not infrequently in quite a few older queer texts.
like iirc oscar wilde literally namedropped them in his very infamous trial speech about men who love other men
Didn’t know about David and Jonathan, didn’t know about Professor X and Magneto, WHAT CAN I SAY. I mean, I was not an English major nor raised in the Christian church, and I think that does contribute to how ridiculously scattershot I am with the ol’ Western cultural allusions. (I have no explanation for the comics thing.) I’ve mostly got Old Greeks and like, in a continuation from that, Hugo, and V Hugz failed me!—
“His nature was thus constituted. There are men who seem to be born to be the reverse, the obverse, the wrong side. They are Pollux, Patrocles, Nisus, Eudamidas, Ephastion, Pechmeja. They only exist on condition that they are backed up with another man; their name a sequel, and is only written preceded by the conjunction and; and their existence is not their own; it is the other side of an existence that is not theirs. Grantaire was one of these men. He was the obverse of Enjolras.
One might almost say that affinities begin with the letters of the alphabet. In the series, O and P are inseparable. You can, at will, pronounce O and P or Orestes and Pylades. [And then that’s is I’m ending this roll call here without mentioning David and Jonathan, ha ha to Tarra.]”
Anyway what this means is that PLEASE tell me about David & Jonathan???
platoapproved replied to your post: In which I finish Kings
anyway i am so glad you have gone on this journey and you Understand, now. so much to love so much to hate so much to be charmed and baffled by. That’s Kings (2009) babey.
I am still absolutely blown away that I had thought it was, as @caffeinatedcorvid put it, “a Serious Drama”
